Episode #66: Winter Update

On the 66th episode of The UrbanCincy Podcast, TravisJake, and John discuss the demolition of the Pogue’s Garage and the construction of the Fourth & Race and Eighth & Sycamore towers. We also discuss the effects of the Hamilton County Auditor’s property revaluations, various Uptown developments, and more.

  • matimal

    I was in Austin in December. The scale of new construction there is breathtaking both in the city and the burbs.

  • Mark Christol

    I was reading about a couple developments in Springfield, OH & they were being done by Cincinnati companies. I thought, ‘there they are!’

    The Dunlap! Haven’t had a Jones Burger in years.

    Upstairs @ Leaders is crazy.

    Pretty sure Berns was just handing out tomato plants & not marijuana

    I think a lot of young liberals just assumed Qualls would get the primary & just didn’t vote, but that hurt her in polling & support for the real race.

  • Charlie1234

    I like the point about historic redevelopment vs. New Construction. Thought there are only two cranes in the air right now, they are also working on the huge conversion at 303? Vine, which is around 294 apartments. There are countless other rehabs going on as mentioned in the Urban Core.

    I think a couple other really big re-habs are imminent on 4th Street area, this will really bring the daytime population up in that area and reduce the amount of office space in inventory. Then I think you see something coming on with the possible Kroger building on Central Pkway and Walnut and then continued redevelopment in other spots. I also am surprised we haven’t heard anything yet for the pad south of GE’s new building. Last time they got the construction going really quickly after putting together the pad with at least the apartments.

  • Neil.C

    Thanks Jake for emphasizing how ridiculous arguments of gentrification are in Cincinnati at this point. It will be a problem down the road, but Cincinnati is stupid cheap right now, and even OTR is pretty undervalued given the amenities/architecture.

    • xclone25x

      I don’t know; I’d consider real estate in OTR rather overpriced at this point in the context of being located in Cincinnati

  • Jake, here’s the “Mr. Glass Block” you were thinking of:


  • Matt Jacob

    This city of Cincinnati property tax cap is the biggest boondoggle in town. You did a good job describing it, but it’s a shame that the county, school, etc. keep raising taxes so that people don’t actually feel the tax relief in the neighborhoods as the urban core’s values increase. It would only be peanuts, but if the city actually stopped giving all these peanuts away, they would add up to quite a lot of money. Enough money to keep up with inflation of the city’s expenses to allow for police raises without triggering a new budget deficit, for example. This is how every other place around the country does property taxes and we’re incredibly dumb to continue this policy.

    • I think Cincinnati should forget Norwood, and focus on annexing Elmwood Place. Yeah, it’s a tough neighborhood, but there’s a lot of potential with the building stock along Vine St.

      Then, you look at North College Hill, Mt. Healthy, Silverton, and maybe Fairfax. Maybe also chip away at Springfield Township. Cincy needs to start small (helps the city anyway to add more people), then work its way to pressuring Norwood and St. Bernard.

    • Matt Jacob

      I agree that proving it can work on a smaller municipality might be a better first step to get the ball rolling, but eventually St.B and Norwood need to be tackled. It hasn’t been done in so long that I’m actually not even sure of the process to do it. Do the residents of the municipality need to vote on it or is it just a formalized agreement between government entities? And if they vote, what are the thresholds of residents/tax parcels of land that needs to be hit?

      Given the hierarchy in Ohio, townships are lowest on the totem pole, then villages, then cities. So it would seem that some of those Springfield Township floater parcels would be the lowest hanging fruit. Elmwood Place, and St. Benard are both villages. Norwood is of course a city.

  • Aaron Hamlin

    It’s hard to listen and hear talk about vote splitting within single-winner elections and talk about disproportionality in multi-winner elections and not hear talk about the need for smarter voting methods.

    Approval voting is solid for single-winner elections, allowing voters to choose (not rank) as many candidates as they want with the candidate having the most votes winning. This addresses vote splitting directly and would actually encourage more candidates to run since the spoiler fear is removed.

    With council, there are a number of proportional options to choose from. Any of them would be better than the council’s existing bloc plurality method. A proportional method gives nearly everyone a voice by having more voters’ ballots go towards actually electing someone. It’s a shame that Cincinnati voted down its semi-recent opportunity to use a proportional method. Total mistake.